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Well despite Don Nelson laughing off the idea of the Warriors trading Monta Ellis the truth of the matter is their GM is the one calling the shots, not the coach retiring at season's end. As we mentioned yesterday CSNNE is reporting that the Warriors are shopping Monta Ellis and offered him to the Celtics for Ray Allen. For salary cap reasons a straight up swap doesn't work. The author Blakely speculated that the Warriors could include Radmanovic to make the contract match. Using ESPN's trade machine this morning, I see that Raja Bell could be substituted for Radmanovic and the deal would go through. Now Raja is currently out injured recovering from wrist surgery, but is due to return before what would be the playoffs for the Celtics. If you read my comments in the above link I love the idea of adding Monta Ellis and don't share the concerns some due of a Rondo/Ellis backcourt. Ellis played fine with Baron Davis in Golden State and I like the idea of other teams having to figure out how to guard us. Who would the Magic put on Rondo and Ellis? Who would Phil Jackson put Fisher on and watch him get eaten alive? But if your still not convinced that Ellis would work there are two additional possibilities.

1) We add a sweetener (draft pick, Glen Davis, etc) and Golden State agrees to buy out Ray Allen and he returns to Boston in a  month rested for the playoffs.
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2) Raja Bell is included (he's simply an expiring contract and serves the same purpose to Golden State as Vlad with his non guaranteed contract for next year). Raja can hit the 3 and is a great defender. So much so that Tim Donaghy even wrote that the league has to call fouls on him because otherwise he shuts Kobe Bryant down and the league doesn't want to see that.


Look I really like Ray Allen, but Id rather have Monta Ellis from age 24-34 than Ray Allen from age 34-38. I think we're getting exposed by younger more athletic teams and a player like Monta Ellis would solve the "too old" woes. No one plays defense in Nellie's system, but I'm confident that with KG and Thibs, Monta would improve as a defender (like Ray did when he came over here). Monta Ellis already has his contract, so there's no reason to believe he wouldn't sacrifice shots for the greater good of the team. Also, with Monta on the squad, we'd no longer need to worry about the backup point guard position as Ellis could play it for 12-15 minutes a game, which would lesson Rondo's load.

This is a similar situation to the late 80's/ early 90's Celtics. Yes they had the names like Kevin, Robert and Larry, but a name alone doesn't bring a title. We need to tweak our team so our window can be extended. Pierce, KG, and 'Sheed can be the vets and Perk, Rondo and Ellis can be the young stars. That combo keeps us contenders for the next 3-4 years and then we have a solid young nucleus, which we can add to when KG and Pierce retire (hopefully as multiple NBA champions). This way we don't go another twenty years without a Finals appearance. If you just care about this year and want to play it safe and hope that we remain healthy, yes we might win the title with the current group. Might. (We aren't the favorites though this year.) But if you're a little bit of a gambler and want to make an attempt to increase the odds of winning this year AND put us in a better situation for the future, you roll the dice on this trade. The safe move in the late 80's /early 90's was to keep the Big 3 and its deja vu twenty years later. What does Danny do? What should he do? What would you do?

JR 1/26/2010 10:56:00 AM Edit
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10 Responses so far.

  1. Karl Dillinger says:

    Damn, I was just going to write about how I don't like that trade but you convinced me! If we get Raja Bell I love the trade. We should just get Raja Bell for TA,haha.

  2. Anonymous says:

    Spacing, particularly without Bell would be a nightmare, could you imagine Rondo, Ellis and TA all trying to create off the dribble? Throw in Perk and BBD too and Doc is going to have to get fancy with his lineups.

  3. Karl Dillinger says:

    Bell is out for the season I just realized. Can we get the Raja Bell from 2006?

  4. JR says:

    Bell is projected to be out for 4 months. it's been what 2 months so far? Obviously on a non playoff team like the Warriors that makes him essentially out for the yea, but for the Celtics he could come back in March and play in April, May and June.

    One thing to remember in trades: You have to give to get. I hate to lose Ray too, but no one is going to give us a Caron Butler or Monta Ellis or anything decent for our pupu platter of scrubs.

  5. tb727 says:

    "I hate to lose Ray too, but no one is going to give us a Caron Butler or Monta Ellis or anything decent for our pupu platter of scrubs."

    Chris Wallace would.

    I like Bell a lot...

  6. JR says:

    tb,
    Chris Wallace only makes trades that either hurt the Celtics or help their competitors unfortunately.

  7. gilbert says:

    we should pull the trigger on this trade this is Ray Allen's last year of his contract if he's insulted by the money we offer him in the offseason and lose him then what? We hope that he can lure a free agent to boston something that has been very difficult.Monta is making what we would like to sign Allen to next year as well 11 million that a &million dollar difference from Allen's contract this year which will go to Rondo's contract that starts next year

  8. gilbert says:

    7 million dollar difference which is about the raise Rondo will be getting next year

  9. Three Toe says:

    i dont know if i would do this... though it seems to make sense, unlike a lot of trade ideas, for both teams

  10. Bohemian says:

    I think this would be a good deal for the C's. However, maybe there are better options too, we will see. One thing is sure, if Ray is traded I would feel better if he returned after a month as a free agent. I like Ray a lot and he is still very valuable for this team.

    This is not about Ray, it's about the team using his contract to get more talent. We won't be big players in Free Agency and the TA+Scal trade options are not giving much result.

    By the way, talking about Scal and Tony...we haven't seen their names in trade rumors. We have read about Giddens, House...Maybe the team just wants to keep both?

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